My forum is at the top of page 1 on Bing and DuckDuckGo - because it should be
And I do no work to get there
On Google my forum is on page 1 but ranked 7 or 8 behind a whole lot of other random sites
I am not going to spend hours optimsing for Google, when they don't tell us their algorthymms, and when they change them every 6 months
This is wrong because we already have our own, very well-equipped and fast server.
With the default style, XF is also very fast. Only on mobile devices is there a lack of speed.
However, this is not a server or connection problem, otherwise the desktop style would also load slowly.
With AMP, our mobile pages are now fast enough on mobile devices to noticeably increase the Google rating.
And yes, Google is the "messiah" of the Internet, at least for all sites that Google pushes and wants to be found in many search results.
Dreams and morals do not help anyone here, what counts are numbers, values and facts.