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Risk of using 1.1 Beta in production

Discussion in 'General XenForo Discussion and Feedback' started by rEd86, Oct 20, 2011.


For those that have purchased the XenForo, would you use XenForo 1.1 Beta in production?

Poll closed Oct 27, 2011.
  1. Yes, the product is stable, even for a beta. I have already installed it on my main site.

  2. Yes but not on a site that gets any type of traffic.

  3. Maybe, but there are a few bugs that need to be addressed beforehand.

  4. No way. I never use beta software in a production environment. I'm sticking with 1.0.4.

  5. Are you crazy? I wait until the release AFTER the gold release - I play it that safe.

  1. rEd86

    rEd86 Active Member

    OK, I have read the warnings on the download pages:

    But there are so many cool/great features in the latest release that I REALLY want to launch a new site on version 1.1. Yea, I know - I've been warned but the product looks pretty stable and I am hoping this is just a standard disclaimer to avoid liability/blame.

    I hope we're on a shorter release path for 1.1 than we had for 1.0. With 1.0, which was a brand spanking new product, the releases were:
    • Beta 1 - October 5, 2010
    • Beta 2 - October 21, 2010
    • Beta 3 - November 11, 2010
    • Beta 4 - December 3, 2010
    • Beta 5 - December 10, 2010
    • Beta 6 - January 13, 2011
    • RC1 - January 20, 2011
    • RC2 - February 3, 2011
    • RC3 - February February 22, 2011
    • 1.0 - March 8, 2011 (y)
    I didn't find anything when I searched but are we looking at a similar time frame for 1.1? (Beta 1 was released on the same date of October 5) I would think that it's going to be a much shorter timeline since this isn't a 2.0 release. I get the sense that there is more functionality being added and there are still bugs being corrected, but the core product is fairly baked at this time so nothing significant structurally will change. That changes the risks of running the beta IMHO but I wanted to get the community's thoughts on this, especially since many of you have already installed the latest 1.1 betas on production sites. (and maybe a hint from Kier or Mike as to time lines)


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  2. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    I've been using it on my site since Beta 2.

    I know what the projected date is but I can't say :censored:
  3. petertdavis

    petertdavis Well-Known Member

    If I were launching a fresh new site, I'd consider 1.1 beta, but it would also depend on how many, and which add-ons you plan to use, as well as custom styles. Fresh install, no add-ons, and default style then why not use beta? Existing active site, lots of add-ons, and custom style, then I wouldn't use beta.
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  4. ShadyX

    ShadyX Well-Known Member

    I have been using it live on my forum since it was made available for download.
  5. M@rc

    M@rc Well-Known Member

    I use xenForo 1.1 beta 3 for my small community. Everything is working fine for me, well - for the features which we use, ;) ( members haven't reported any bugs yet.. )
    I keep a close eye on the Open Bug Reports forum before upgrading, by the way, :coffee:

    For a forum with over 20 members online at the same time ( any point of the day ) , I'd recommend you wait for a stable version to be released, (y)
    That's just me.. :whistle:
    If members start complaining about bugs, then it'll be a headache to switch back from 1.1 to 1.0. ( posts might be lost if you're unable to convert because you'll be using a backed-up database )
  6. RvG

    RvG Active Member

    If there is a risk of using this beta on live then xenForo is at danger. :sneaky:
  7. rEd86

    rEd86 Active Member

    Excellent points. I was only going to use XenForo 1.1 with a limited number of simple plugins initially (if any) so that too significantly reduces the risk of things breaking or having conflicts with each additional beta release. Any plugins that I will use are cosmetic and could be disabled if there were conflicts.

    It does look like some sites with a fair amount of traffic have made the jump. (Brogan's site has 75 active users online right now) So what's the largest site (active users) that's made the jump to 1.1 beta? XenForo.com has made the jump and currently has 231 active users, so that says a lot IMHO. (unless they are using some version that's not available to us yet! :))

  8. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    XenForo.com is always slightly ahead as it is constantly being developed.

    So think of it as currently being somewhere between Beta 3 and the next release.
  9. robdog

    robdog Well-Known Member

    4 out of 4 sites are on 1.1 beta 3 and I have no problems.
  10. bogus

    bogus Guest

    Brogan. Man.. How can you be sooo mean :p
  11. rEd86

    rEd86 Active Member

    I figured as much...
    And I overlooked this little statement the first time I read your post. YOU TEASE! :D

  12. Rigel Kentaurus

    Rigel Kentaurus Well-Known Member

    Do not run beta software on your site unless you know what you are doing.
    If you have to ask, must likely you should NOT run the beta.

    I am running myself 1.1 on production, but I am a Software Engineer that has done UBB for years, then VB for years, then XF ...
    If there is a bug, I am pretty much capable of fixing it myself. If you feel comfortable debugging the database, browsing through the code, and reporting issues, run the beta.

    That said, I have run in just 1 serious issue so far ...
    You can no longer import an style (in beta 3), due to this bug - http://xenforo.com/community/threads/mysqli-errors-when-importing-style.17301/#post-226432

    Other than that it has been cosmetic issues, small bugs here and there, translations, nothing major, nothing serious.
    The software is rock solid.
  13. Trombones13

    Trombones13 Well-Known Member

    Note the lack of wording it as "Beta 4"... *raises eyebrow and stirs pot* :p :D
  14. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    I added that in later, hoping it would slip by unnoticed :D

    I deliberately didn't specify what the next release would be as that would just start a whole load more speculation :D
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  15. kkm323

    kkm323 Well-Known Member

    xf1.1 betas version works like a stable release especially beta 2 and 3. Not even one problem regarding the core software. I have to alert you that if you are using RTL style don't make the move, beta 3 is not ready for us yet. 2 bugs to go before I make my move.
    1. RTL Editor ..
    2. RTL problem with tumbnails attachments
    (y) xf never disappointed me ;)
  16. EasyTarget

    EasyTarget Well-Known Member

  17. EasyTarget

    EasyTarget Well-Known Member

    If you do run the beta, you know you run the risk of increasing global warming, starting the chain reaction that will lead to the apocalypse, dogs loving cats, and a whole slew of other potential side effects. :)
  18. Deebs

    Deebs Well-Known Member

    I am currently migrating my large forum (4 million posts, started in 2003) to XenForo as we speak. :)

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