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Discussion in 'Closed Suggestions' started by Princeton, Aug 25, 2010.

  1. Princeton

    Princeton Well-Known Member

    vBulletin users, check your memberlist.php stats (pageviews, visits, etc). The same applies to those who operate other forum software - go check your member listing page stats.

    You'll find that the numbers are really low.

    The Members page on xenForo is no different. Isn't this a waste of valuable space? Are we missing out on an opportunity here?

    The #1 rule when placing a link on the main navigation is to add links to sections that the visitor frequently visits. In other words, sections that have a lot of traffic. More than likely these are sections that you want people to visit - sections that have fresh content.

    What if the Members page was a central hub for member activity such as Groups, Photos, News Feed, Online Members, etc? How much more valuable would this space become?

    We currently don't have a Groups or Gallery addon but these are features that will definitely come either by 3rd party or by xenForo themselves. Wouldn't it be cool if we can add these features to the Members page via hooks?

    Another issue I have with the Members page is that it lists all members by default. In time, everyone will be introduced to members with funny looking names - all starting with non-alphanumeric names. 99.9% of the time these members are not even active.

    With a central hub, I recommend listing Online Members (avatars). The thinking behind this is that we promote those who are currently active - the more active you are the more exposure you get.

    For those who are visual learners, here's a mockup of what I described above...

    Remember the goal is to create a section (page) that is "valuable" to us (individually). The central hub can be different for everyone.

    I call it Community Central :)) I didn't know what to call it)
    Newt, sonnb, pjfry and 80 others like this.
  2. Russ

    Russ Well-Known Member

    Princeton.... you sexy *******. That is extremely nice, I do however think a Members Page would still be valuable however. BUT this is a fantastic idea, sort of reminds me of JomSocial in a sense but again well done. I would love to see something like this.
    Michael Dance, CallieJo and erich37 like this.
  3. Brandon_R

    Brandon_R Guest

    The memberlist page is like the calendar problem all over again. Lets see the devs innovation at work here :)
  4. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Steady on chap!

    Interesting idea though, will be interested to see what the dev's think of it.
    Brett Peters likes this.
  5. Peggy

    Peggy Well-Known Member

    That is very interesting! I like the general idea, however, there's just too much on that page for me. It's too 'busy. I wouldn't use it much as such.
  6. Salty

    Salty Active Member

    Great area for all the "media!" I like it because there currently is no area for all the forum's media.

    (groups, attachments, etc)
  7. Princeton

    Princeton Well-Known Member

    that's whole idea - if done correctly you can add whatever you want to it ... the whole point is that we will have a central area to add all these extras
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  8. Russ

    Russ Well-Known Member

    Almost like widgets in a sense? I think that's why keeping the members page as is but making this in addition. I can easily see this as a modification down the road if it's not implemented by the devs.
    Brandon_R likes this.
  9. Enigma

    Enigma Well-Known Member

    Not a bad mockup Princeton. It wouldn't have to be in place of the member list either, it could be added as a new central "members" page, and the plain listing of all members could still be accessible somewhere.
  10. Peggy

    Peggy Well-Known Member

    Ok then I see what you're saying. So Mike and Kier would need to either create or redesign a member page and widget capabilities?
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  11. Sador

    Sador Well-Known Member

    That's pretty awesome.
  12. Princeton

    Princeton Well-Known Member

    we don't need additional files ... the "central hub" and view all members list can be called via the same file

    basically, the only thing that's needed is to take the members.php page change the default list (give us options such as use avatars only, list online members as default, list all members as default, etc) and add the appropriate hooks (top, bottom, sidebar, etc)

    we (admins) can then add to the page and really make it something that is worth placing on the main navigation ... this will give everyone the power to customize their "members" page
    Michael Dance and erich37 like this.
  13. kmike

    kmike Member

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  14. Russ

    Russ Well-Known Member

    Princeton I see where you're coming from as in not wanting to bloat the forums any more than they need to. However some folks still may like the old fashion members page, which is why I suggested additional link for this. I myself would love for this to completely replace the members page as I have no use for it. BUT I am thinking about the whole community, so again I'm on board with you're mock up but options are always nice.
  15. Mike

    Mike XenForo Developer Staff Member

    This has been mentioned elsewhere, but the members' list in it's current state will most likely be changed. This idea obviously relies on some things that don't exist, though the news feed could be used as alternative. Most likely, I'd probably put a "top members" type view in place of what we have, such as top trophy/like/posters. The A-Z list is really not of much use beyond a small community.
  16. Peggy

    Peggy Well-Known Member

    Really? I think the A-Z list is more useful in a larger community.
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  17. Forsaken

    Forsaken Well-Known Member

    They mentioned that it tends to create bloat (I think) in larger communities.

    I usually use the search feature, because its more time-efficient then going through multiple pages looking for a member.
  18. Grover

    Grover Well-Known Member

    Yes, it is a waste and yes there is so much room for improvement to make the Memberlist actually useful for once and all! We have been requesting this over and over and over again on... 'the other side/site' ... and still to this day I have to discover a forum product that gets it. Why do they all look the same and has no one come up with a much better social oriented one, indeed. I totally love your mockup; it looks awesome! Beautiful and attractive (on several levels) Thanks for producing this and getting a discussion going.

    Since XF is so socially orientated I proposed this earlier:

    So, I am happy to read this:

  19. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Listing highest posting members, most trophies, most likes, etc. will just encourage post count padding.
    Is it a forum or a game/competition?
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  20. Princeton

    Princeton Well-Known Member

    anything is better than the list as default...
    also, please add hooks throughout so that we can add to it - it will sure make things easier for admins to create a better (more valuable) page

    it's not "instant" ... people have to look through the list and that could take some time; hence, why people don't use it

    one is better off using the search

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