Implemented  Mouse Over Smilies doesn't show the name of the Smilie

Kevin

Well-known member
One question: Why? :)
Besides ADA compliance? For some sites with a lot of smilies, being able to hover over the image to see the alt tag is nice sometimes to find out just what the smiley is supposed to be.
 

Mert Y

Member
Besides ADA compliance? For some sites with a lot of smilies, being able to hover over the image to see the alt tag is nice sometimes to find out just what the smiley is supposed to be.
Alt tags are already there, you're talking about the title tag :)

Nevermind, I thought he was expecting mouseover bubbles like the ones used for forum descriptions, don't know why...
 

Shelley

Well-known member
Agree with kevin on this. As a smiley designer I like to know what smiley is what (even the ones I design). Personally, I'd like to see this applied to the default product though it's an easy implementation to make once the customer get's their hands on it ready for customisation.
 

BirdOPrey5

Well-known member
Yeah, I just meant a way so I know how to reuse the smilie if I wanted to... I guess we're used to seeing the names/titles but the actual code may be more useful... I guess both would be ideal. Like "Eek / :eek:"
 

Kevin

Well-known member
Alt tags are already there, you're talking about the title tag :)
Correct, title tags. I am so used to just doing both at the same time that I don't even think about it anymore.

Nevermind, I thought he was expecting mouseover bubbles like the ones used for forum descriptions, don't know why...
Now that I can see as being annoying. :D
 

Luke F

Well-known member
This could do with being moved to the tweaks/small suggestions section :)

Also a DIY solution - add after the alt tag on line 78 93 of/library/XenForo/BbCode/Formatter/Base.php:
Code:
 title="'.htmlspecialchars($smilie['title']).'"
 

Grover

Well-known member
Old post, no doubt, but I'm not sure how many of us see ":notworthy:" and automatically think "Woah, that smilie means not worthy!"
That raises the question if it's handy in the first place to include smilies in a product that are difficult to understand. Yes, with the inclusion of these new smilies in XenForo the meaning of some of them is unknown/not recognizable anymore... so the need of tooltips (that are luckily included in the smilies dropdown) becomes bigger.

: this is supposed to represent... ' love'. Well... I don't think many people would get that without the help of a tooltip. In my opinion... basic smilies in a product should not need a tooltip to explain to it's endusers what they mean. That's why the former/original XenForo smilies pack was not bad at all.
 

James

Well-known member
That raises the question if it's handy in the first place to include smilies in a product that are difficult to understand. Yes, with the inclusion of these new smilies in XenForo the meaning of some of them is unknown/not recognizable anymore... so the need of tooltips (that are luckily included in the smilies dropdown) becomes bigger.

:love: : this is supposed to represent... ' love'. Well... I don't think many people would get that without the help of a tooltip. In my opinion... basic smilies in a product should not need a tooltip to explain to it's endusers what they mean. That's why the former/original XenForo smilies pack was not bad at all.
You become more used to smilies as they're used and you see them in use. I saw the not worthy smilie once and now I'm completely aware of its meaning.
Basic smilies don't need explanation: :) :( :mad: :eek: :D
etc.
 

Kier

XenForo developer
Staff member
XenForo will ship with all of the smiley graphics, but only a subset of those will be actually activated as smilies in the default installation - ie: the ones that you already have.
 

James

Well-known member
Are there plans to introduce the title attribute showing the code/title of the smiley on hover?
 

Grover

Well-known member
Basic smilies don't need explanation: :) :( :mad: :eek: :D :whistle: :p :oops: (y) etc.
Yes, that's what I mean. In combination with Kier's explanation I believe the stock XF will be great when it comes to smilies. I do understand the issues people have with the 'girlie/soft factor', but nonetheless these new designs are high-quality to my eyes. And therefor do fit the high quality and soft look of the overall XenForo UI actually.
 

DSF

Well-known member
A smilie is a simple picture/symbol/sign for a emotion.
What for I need a title attribut or explanations ?????
Sorry, but this sugesstions is nonsense
 

Ati

Active member
The "Cool" smilie is not perfect in the announcement. It says "Cool: :cool:"
 
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