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Google SEO

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Salty, Jan 29, 2011.

  1. Salty

    Salty Active Member

    Interesting article I read today

    http://www.seomoz.org/blog/how-organized-crime-is-taking-control-of-googles-search-results
     
  2. AnthonyCea

    AnthonyCea Well-Known Member

    Smart man who has conducted some great research, but this is not SEO, it is Spam-E-O automated link spamming and link dumping, Google will filter it out, Matt Cutts addressed this issue and has placed the responsibility on forum owners to keep link spamming under control, if they allow bots to dump anchor text links on their forums Google will de-index their sites in the end.

    http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/calling-for-link-spam-reports/

    read my comments (4 posts) at the end and follow the links in the posts to see how Black Hat Spam-E-O morons are targeting your forums looking to conduct automated link spamming.

    http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/calling-for-link-spam-reports/#comment-552286
     
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  3. Salty

    Salty Active Member

    You provided a ton of good links in the blog comments.

    Good read.
     
  4. AnthonyCea

    AnthonyCea Well-Known Member

    One can see the big picture by following the links because then you will understand what Black Hat Spam-E-O morons are up to and will see how your fellow webmasters are responsible for spamming your forums.
     
  5. Salty

    Salty Active Member

    Do you think there is some way to gauge a website's discussion interactivity and base it on that?

    Would something like this open up the possibility of bigger exploits? Is there anyway to revolve it around discussion for it to be fair?

    Such as, reviews ranking high on Google Maps.
     
  6. AnthonyCea

    AnthonyCea Well-Known Member

    If you want to rank in Google they do think highly of original content found no where else on the web, they also like to see a lot of fresh content everyday from a domain, so if you can do those things you will rank.

    What Matt Cutts is saying to forum owners is don't let members anchor text spam your forums and dump links in user profiles, some Black Hat Spam-e-o morons register thousands of accounts on forums with Xrumer just to dump links in user profile signature and homepage slots.
     
  7. Salty

    Salty Active Member

    Do you believe that if/when they lower the value of anchor text links, discussion-based content will begin to be more valuable?
     
  8. AnthonyCea

    AnthonyCea Well-Known Member

    Google ranks based on over 100 or more factors including domain trust rank and so on, in the end link spammers get de-indexed, so even though they might rank for a while based on a number of anchor text links Google will catch them and de-index their domains.

    Forums with solid content already rank high, this forum ranks very well with old established forums and it is new, mostly because of unique content and a lot of sites linking to this place.
     
  9. Salty

    Salty Active Member

    If "catching and de-indexing" is their fight against the un-evenness of text link spam, is anything "real" been announced in regards to stopping this from continuing?
     
  10. AnthonyCea

    AnthonyCea Well-Known Member

    De-indexing a site is Google's way of penalizing sites that allow spam and link spamming, there are a number of sites including this one that place no follow tags on outgoing links within threads and signature link slots, so it is up to the webmaster to protect his own domain against Google penalization.

    I don't know if there is a way to stop spambot operators other than using some of the firewalls and spambot IP databases like www.botscout.com to block them, forum software developers are also making adjustments to stop machine gun spambot operators from being able to register forum accounts in the first place, something that should have been done 5 years ago.
     
  11. Salty

    Salty Active Member

    When you say, forum software developers are making adjustments, would the assumption of vbulletin 3.x users not having this in place a serious issue to consider? Do you believe that link bot spam affects many of the forum community with the same software adoption?

    Thus contributing to many de-indexing of pages that shouldn't be? Hurting that site's rank?
     
  12. AnthonyCea

    AnthonyCea Well-Known Member

    Yes, I have seen many vB 3 forums with a lot of spam on them, when the owners give up spammers take over, so anyone running old scripts who allow new members to post without moderation are at risk if spam threads are visible to the public.
     
  13. Salty

    Salty Active Member

    Good stuff, thanks for the replies.
     

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